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Thursday, June 5, 2008

The Jihad Candidate

By Rich Carroll
Conspiracy theories make for interesting novels when the storyline is not so absurd that it can grasp our attention. 'The Manchurian Candidate' and 'Seven Days in May' are examples of plausible chains of events that captures the reader's imagination at best-seller level. 'What if' has always been the solid grist of fiction.

Get yourself something cool to drink, find a relaxing position, but before you continue, visualize the television photos of two jet airliners smashing into the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan and remind yourself this cowardly act of Muslim terror was planned for eight years.

How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States ? As long as it took them to place a Senator from Illinois and Minnesota ? The same amount of time to create a large Muslim enclave in Detroit ? The time it took them to build over 2,000 mosques in America ? The same amount of time required to place radical wahabbist clerics in our military and prisons as 'chaplains'?

Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being a 'freedom fighter' when he was actually part of the most corrupt and violent government in Kenya 's history. Find a candidate with close ties to The Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa , a candidate who is educated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and anger behind a superficial toothy smile.

Find a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barak Hussein Obama, and dares anyone to question his true ties under the banner of 'racism'. Nurture this candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround him with Islamic teachers. Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white, anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim middle east connections and Islamic monies.

Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer dollars to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa . Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception because questioning him on any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as 'bigoted racism'; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of facts.

Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and campaign staffs.

Continue Reading.

51 comments:

Snooper said...

http://www.anewtone.com/2008/06/jihad-candidatea-must-read.html

Barack is a Clear and Present danger.

Timothy said...

The fear of truth and change displayed in your rhetoric is the root of the plague that is desroying our country. Obama is a Christian but who cares what religion he is? I don't fear all Christians because a portion of them are fanatical right wing, fundementalist loons like you. Do you know Islam traces its origion to Abraham and adam just as Christianity? When you and your backward thinking friends are benifitting from health care, a strong econmy, the continued freedom to express your hate, and stronger military due to Obama's inevitable presidency you can thank us rational people for voting him in for you.

GuitarJoeKat said...

The author writes--and I quote--"Muslim controlled United Nations".

The Muslims don't control the United Nations--you idiot.

The UN Security Council controls the United Nations and consists of the following members: China, France, Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States.

Try getting your fact's straight before you publish this idiotic disinformation.

Dr. Crow said...

Man your rant's got me real shook! World will end if Obama is elected! Muslims will steal my daughter and wife!! US will be forced to not drink!! UN will rule our parking lots! And other crazy crap that you know doubt have thought of too!!! Wow! Facts to back up your paranoid rant would be a real plus!! Good luck during the coming apocalyptic jihad!!! Salaam Alekum!

Snooper said...

Pay no attention to the ignorance of the naysayers. They have no earthly idea what they are yapping about.

psmecker said...

Shouldn't you be more worried about the Christian's? After the job 59 million Christian voters have done to screw up this country for the last 7 plus years of debauchery how could you ever for voter for another Christian again?

Snooper said...

typical ignorant idiocy from a jerk-off Leftinistra spiker.

MissC said...

I CARE what religion he is because the religion one follows with have an impact on society! And don't blame the Christians for any negatives! It's you God hating liberals that are at fault! You follow your hedonistic ideas, then with it's time to pay the piper, you play blame game!

The seventh said...

There isn't a plot 'manchurian candidate'-style or any other style to take over the U.S. Anyone with an ounce of sense would know that if there is a plot it's origins lie in the Neoconservative movement. Realistically speaking the arabs don't have to plot, certainly the Nation of Islam or any other family of Muslims don't have to plot. It seems to me the issue is that you are someone from a culture who enjoys writing and looking at "horror movies. You have to have a 'boogey-man.'

Your boogey-man along with his co-conspiritors are sitting in the White-House right now. When we unlawfully invaded Iraq based on a lie did you hear that eery music with scremming in the background. That was the sound of missles and innocent Iraqi people screaming to the tune of "Shock and Awe."

Raymond said...

What is really both scary and sad is that there are so many millions of people that have nothing good to say about America/Israel and nothing bad to say about the islamofascist terrorists. Christian America, particularly of the evangelical/fundamentalist kind, is what is saving America and the world from the threat of islamofascist terrorism that seeks to take over the entire world, even if that involves murdering every single non-islamofascist on Earth. America/Israel is not the enemy; the islamofascists are. barack hussein osama obama's two fathers automatically make him a moslem forever, plus he was educated in moslem schools, plus he belongs to a church that has embraced an antisemitic/anti-American minister, has honored Black racist Louis Farakhan, and has adopted Hamas' charter as its own.

Samuel said...

Ummm...Barry is short for Barack, the name he was given at birth.

He didn't change his name, "Barry" is what his friends called him.

It's called research, do a little.

mike_trivisonno said...

It is sad to see the lack of historical grounding when it comes to Islamic Imperialism. Islam, founded by the ostracized Mohammed, was violent from its inception. The first to fall were the pre-Islamic Arabians who comprised several distinct groups including Arab Jews and Arab Christians and many pagans. Once Muhammed and his followers destroyed the beauty of Arabia the moved to the Persian Empire. It took many hundreds of years, but the might Persians fell to Islamic Imperialism. After than the Byzantines fell. And on and on throughout the 1,400 year long rise of Islam. Nay, Islam is not to be confused with religion. It is a culture. A violent, bloody and highly misogynistic culture.

Raymond said...

Mike Trivisonno is a man of uncompromising truth, even when truth is painful, as in the case of the islamofascist terrorists. The truth is, Mohammed was the first islamofascsist terrorist; he was a liar, a child molester, and a mass murderer. To equate Islam with Judaism/Christianity makes as much sense as equating Adolf Shitler with Mother Teresa.

GuitarJoeKat said...

Raymond writes--and I quote--"...people that have nothing good to say about America/Israel and nothing bad to say about the islamofascist terrorists."

"Islamofascists" do not exist. The fact that you use such a term demonstrates your ignorance and the depth and breadth of right wing "christian" intolerance and self-imposed brainwashing.

In fact, fascism was defined by Benito Mussolini (the father of modern-day fascism) as "corporatism and reaction". Thus, fascism is a marriage of government and corporations. Hence, America is the true fascist state because America is controlled by corporations and wealthy plutocrats.

Furthermore, the American military is an instrument of fascism. Obviously, the American military does not "defend the people of the United States" (where were the brave US military on 11 September 2001 if they claim to defend us?), the US military maintains the largest empire in world history by force and extreme violence leveled against the third world.

Thus, if ignorant, brainwashed right wing "christians" wish to find the nexus of world fascism, they do well to look no further than their pastor--not to mention Wall Street, Madison Avenue and Washington, DC.

Raymond said...

Well, I guess one way to deal with the world-wide threat of islamofascist terrorism, is to deny it even exists. It is like that childhood game of closing one's eyes so that nobody sees you.

How ironic that the very people who claim to be so tolerant and liberal, are precisely the same ones who are so intolerant toward fundamentalist/evangelical Christians and Orthodox Jews, not to mention their hostility toward freedom of speech for conservatives, as well as free-market capitalism. Leftists never met a third-world dictatorship that they did not like.

Calling America fascist makes as much sense as calling Mother Teresa an evil woman. Come to think of it, leftists would hate her, too, for being a devout Christian.

Only a leftist who wants America destroyed, would consider America defending itself to be a form of fascism. Leftists will never be happy until the United States is completely destroyed by the islamofascists.

It is also so sadly ironic that leftists accuse proud, traditional Americans of being brainwashed. the leftists have been so brainwashed by the left-wing media and leftist college professors, that they have lost the brain capacity to even think straight anymore.

GuitarJoeKat said...

Raymond writes--and I quote--..."Calling America fascist makes as much sense as calling Mother Teresa an evil woman."

Do you deny that America is controlled by corporations and wealthy plutocrats? If you do, then I must ask, what planet do you live on? I have given you the real definition of fascism, yet you are compelled to deny that reality. Clearly, you need to do your homework and learn the real definition of words, not the Orwellian hogwash you blindly accept as "fact".

Raymond writes--and I quote--"Only a leftist who wants America destroyed, would consider America defending itself to be a form of fascism."

First of all, I'm not a leftist, I'm a true conservative a la Barry Goldwater. You, however, are not a "conservative christian", you are an illiterate, extreme right wing ideologue who plays fast and loose with words you do not understand. Furthermore, I do not wish to see "America destroyed", I wish to see America live up to its potential, which certainly does not include imposing a fascist empire on the rest of the world.

Raymond writes--and I quote--"...It is also so sadly ironic that leftists accuse proud, traditional Americans of being brainwashed."

You are not a "proud, traditional American", you're a brainwashed extreme right wing fascist--no different that your so-called leader, George Walker Bush.

Raymond writes--and I quote--"Leftists will never be happy until the United States is completely destroyed by the islamofascists."

Do you acknowledge truth, Raymond? The last time I checked it was the American military who is now in the process of destroying Iraq--not to mention killing innocent Iraqis who had nothing to do with the events of 11 September 2001--and enforcing an fascist empire by military force.

Again, I ask you, if the American military "defends America", where were they on 11 September 2001? If the US military can intercept Paine Stewart's private plane within five minutes of veering off course, why were so-called "islamofascists" allowed to fly jets off course over the east coast of the United States for in excess of 45 minutes without so much as a single fighter jet being committed to allegedly "defend the United States"?

Raymond writes--and I quote--"...hostility toward freedom of speech for conservatives.

As I recall it is American "conservatives" (read right wing fascists) who express "intolerance" for the "freedom of speech" granted to non-fascist Americans, who are routinely greeted with shouts of "treason" and "unpatriotic" by the treasonous and unpatriotic extreme right wingers who control the American "news" media.

Raymond lies--and I quote--"the leftists have been so brainwashed by the left-wing media."

That is the Big Lie. The American media is owned by the US military Industrial Complex, which is hardly a den of "leftists"--you ignorant twit. Did you know that General Electric, the world's largest producer of nuclear weapons, owns NBC? Perhaps now you'll tell us that General Electric is owned by "leftists", which is a monstrous lie.

Again Raymond, are you capable of acknowledging truth, or merely spewing extreme right wing Orwellian propaganda and lies?

Snooper said...

guitarjoekat...your total and complete idiocy is truly amazing.

Raymond said...

Snooper is absolutely right: guitarJoeKat is indeed a complete and total idiot. Then again, if liberals had any brains, they would be Republicans.

guitarJoeKat lives in the land of the Americ-hating socialists. islamofascism is the real definition of fascism. anybody who does not realize just how fascist the islamofascists are, is truly fascist himself.

guitarJoekat blindly believes in America-hating, Orwellian hogwash, denying the reality of islamofascist terrorism. putting "fact" in "quotes" adds absolutely "nothing" to guitarJoeKat's "arguments" or lack of them.

Only a leftist who wants America destroyed, would consider America defending itself to be a form of fascism.

guitarJoeKat is an illiterate, America-hating, left-wing, antisemitic socialist a la osama bin ladden who plays fast and loose with words guitarJoekat does not understand.

guitarJoeKat wishes to see America destroyed. guitarJoeKat fully supports the islamofascists imposing their islamofascism on the rest of the world.

guitarJoeKat is a proud, traditional islamofascist, a brainwashed extreme left-wing fascist--no different that his leader, osama bin ladden.

guitarJoekat will never be happy until the United States is completely destroyed by the islamofascists.

guitarJoeKat denies the truth of American liberating Iraq from guitarJoeKat's gay butt buddy, Sodamn Insane.

guitarJoeKat sent jets off course over the east coast of the United States for in excess of 45 minutes without so much as a single fighter jet being committed destroying America.

guitarJoeKat expresses intolerance for the freedom of speech granted to anybody who does not buy into his America-hating garbage.

guitarJoekat is treasonous and unpatriotic. putting "treason, "unpatriotic," and "news" in "quotes" adds absoultely "nothing" to guitarJoeKat's "arguments" or lack of them.

guitarJoeKat has been brainwashed by the left-wing media. guitarJoeKat is a big liar.

Of course guitarJoeKat hates the American military. That is because guitarJoeKat wants America destroyed.

since guitarJoeKat hates money so much, he should hand over all of his to Raymond.

guitarJoeKat tells monstrous lies.

guitarJoeKat is not capable of acknowledging truth, instead spewing extreme left wing Orwellian propaganda and lies

GuitarJoeKat said...

As predicted, Raymond responds with more fact-free non-arguments substantiated by absolutely nothing. Your writing is so unoriginal as to be a joke. You merely took my words and rephrased them in the form of a fact-free ad hominem attack substantiated by absolutely nothing of value. Obviously you were educated in a trailer park, Raymond and "Snooper". And your inability to argue on point--let alone substantiate your mindless ranting--is proof positive of my assertion.

For your information--you uneducated cretin--the term fascismo was coined by the Italian Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini. The fasces, the symbol of fascism, consisted of a bundle of rods tied around an axe, which you'll just happen to discover adorns the walls of the US House of Representatives. The fasces found on the walls of the US House of Representatives is not there for no reason--you fool. The fasces was placed there in order to send a message, and that message is that the US is a fascist state. In fact, you'll also find the fasces on the backside of a US dime. Have a look for yourself--that is assuming you have a dime to your name.

Do you deny that the fasces are on the walls of the US House of Representatives?

According to scholars of fascism, there are extreme right influences on fascism as a social movement, and fascism, especially once in power, has historically attacked communism, and parliamentary liberalism, attracting support primarily from the "far right" or "extreme right." There is no arguing this fact--none whatsoever.

Benito Mussolini, the father of modern-day fascism, defined fascism as being a far-right wing ideology in opposition to socialism, classical liberalism, democracy and individualism. This fact is beyond dispute.

Fascism in Italy, the place of fascism's birth, combined elements of corporatism, totalitarianism, nationalism, militarism and anti-Communism. This is the exact disposition of the United States today--you small minded wiper of other people's buttocks.

Benito Mussolini stated--and I quote--"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."

Again, this is the exact disposition of the United States today.

Benito Mussolini also stated--and I quote--"Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere".

Yet again, this is the exact disposition of the United States today--your mindless ranting to the contrary notwithstanding.

Raymond said...

as predicted, guitarJoeKat responds with more fact-free non-arguments substantiated by absolutely nothing. guitarJoeKat is so unoriginal as to be a joke.

guitarJoeKat engages in fact-free ad hominem attack substantiated by absolutely nothing of value.

obviously guitarJoeKat was educated in saudi arabia. guitarJoeKat's inability to argue on point--let alone substantiate guitarJoeKat's mindless ranting--is proof positive of Raymond's assertion.

guitarJoeKat the uneducated cretin is an islamofascist whose swastikas adorn his walls.

the swastikas found on the walls of guitarJoeKat's home was placed there in order to send a message, and that message is that the guitarJoeKat is an islamofascist.

in fact, guitarJoeKat lives in an Afghani gave with his gay butt buddy, osama bin ladden. guitarJoeKat does not have a dime to his name.

putting "far right" and "extreme right" in "quotes" adds absolutely "nothing" to guitarJoeKat's "arguments" or lack of them.

osama bin ladden, the father of modern-day islamofascism, defined islamofascism as being the original teachings of the first islamofascist terrorist, Mohammed. this fact is beyond dispute.

islamofascism in saudi arabia, the place of fascism's birth, combined elements of islam, left-wing politics, hatred of America, and antisemitism. this is the exact disposition of the 57 islamofascist states today. guitarJoeKat is a small minded wiper of gay people's buttocks.

osama bin ladden stated, "islamofaascism should more properly be called islam because it represents the original teachings of mohammed."

Again, this is the exact disposition of the the 57 islamofascist states today.

osam bin ladden also stated, "islamofascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of free-market capitalism, both in the political and economic sphere."

Yet again, islamofascism is the exact disposition of the 57 islamofascist states today. guitarJoeKats mindless ranting to the contrary notwithstanding

GuitarJoeKat said...

Thanks Raymond for proving, once again, that you're about as sharp as a marble.

Raymond said...

guitarJoeKat the America-hating, shitler-loving, gay antisemitic socialist is stupider than a marble

Snooper said...

raymond...be kind to the poor moonbat. IT can't help that is has a mental problem.

Raymond said...

snooper is quite right that guitarJoeKat is a moonbat with a mental problem. But why should we be kind to America-hating, shitler-loving, gay antisemitic socialists? They are doing everything to destroy America, never having anything good to say about America/Israel and nothing bad to say about the islamfascists and other third-world dictatorships. And now, there is a very real possibility that a Black Moslem by the name of barack hussein osama obama will, G-d forbid, become the next President of the United States. Obama must be stopped before he turns America into another failed socialist European country. Obama must be stopped before he sells the Jewish State of Israel down the river.

Raymond said...

Spread the word: A Vote for OBama is a Vote for OSama

Snooper said...

I was being sarcastic! LOL

TROUNCE ALL TROLLS

GuitarJoeKat said...

Raymond, your head is so far up your backside you could chew your food twice.

By the way, Raymond, I have a questions for you: If your parents got a divorce would they still be brother and sister?

But don't worry, Raymond, if you can't laugh at yourself, I'll be glad to do it for you.

Raymond said...

guitarJoeKat's empty head is so far up his ugly gay ass that he chews his own gay shit twice.

guitarJoeKat's parents consist of a gay homo and her lesbian brother.

guitarJoeKat the America-hating, shitler-loving, gay, antisemitic socialist is the laughingstock of this website

GuitarJoeKat said...

Raymond, it must be comforting to know that you're so full of crap that if we beat it out of you with a boat oar we could bury your remains in a match box.

Raymond said...

gutterJoeKat is so full of crap that if gutterJoeKat's own gay shit was beat it out of gutterJoeKat with a boat oar, the rest of the remains of gutterJoeKat could be buried in a match box

GuitarJoeKat said...

Raymond, you're a font of original thoughts, aren't you?

Let me guess, your IQ almost approaches your shoe size.

Raymond said...

gutterJoeKad has no original thoughts. gutterJoeKad's IQ is smaller than his shoe size

whitewolfshield said...

People fear what they don't understand.
Reading this was a lot like hearing an Anne Coulter rant. I just hope that your ignorance doesn't motivate you to get out of your trailer to vote... for all our sake.

Raymond said...

blackWolfShield fears patriotic Americans and proud, traditional Jews. blackWolfShield understands nothing. reading blackWolfShield is a lot like hearing an osama bin ladden rant. blackWolfShield's ignorance motivates him to get out of his Afghani cave to go murder Jews

Snooper said...

The Leftinistra, the armies of the socialist liberal, truly amaze me. When will there be an Open Season declared? Are they willing to die for their cause?

The List of 45 is their cause and it must be defeated, plain and simple.

http://www.anewtone.com/2008/01/list-of-45-something-you-should.html

Steven said...

The people like Rich Carroll cooking up this fear mongering jihad candidate trash deserve the worst repercussions. First of all you are probably the same hypocrites who criticized Obama's Christian Rev. Wright of over 30 years and called Obama a racist because of what someone else said. WHAT PART ABOUT CHRISTIAN REVEREND DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? Look at his wife Michelle as well. She has been a Christian her entire life. Every know a long time married couple with one being a Christian and the other a Muslim? Once again people are resorting to being isolated religious morons just as the Puritan's from America's birth and the Catholic's with their Crusades of old. Learn from history and stop repeating and spreading this idiocy. Islam is the 2nd largest religion and fastest growing in the world. One reason why is because of persecuting imbeciles who speak, write and send e-mails like this. It is only a small fraction that make up the Islamic fanatics/terrorists. If you are going to label it as evil or your enemy then know thy enemy as your brother before spreading things that show a complete lack of understanding about Islam.

The lesson history already taught us, over and over: People fear what they don't understand, or what is different. That fear moves in tandem with the arrogant superiority that comes from the notion of possessing the exclusive "truth." This volatile mixture of fearful ignorance and righteous certitude allows one group to demonize and dehumanize another. And once you have accomplished that, it is much easier to hang people as heretics, keep them as slaves, lynch because of skin color, beat your wife and children, burn them at the stake or in ovens and fly jetliners into buildings. Ref: "America's Hidden History." You are on the road to genocide with this kind of mentality and the willingness to spread this absolute crap.

(Republicans: If your against the war then your not a patriot; If you believe it is every persons god given right to have access to healthcare then your a Marxist or Communist; Obama is a secret radical Muslim who is going force us all to worship Allah and read from the Koran because he has a name I can't pronounce an a middle name that's the same as a very bad person. Mommy, I'm scared. JESUS, help save us from this demon!) Under the same principle, everyone with the name Ted should be feared and be considered bad people because of Ted, the unibomber and Ted Bundy the serial killer. Pathetic! Grow up, get some courage and learn something people.

This is the kind of politics that makes people loose faith in their government. It divides us as a nation. "United we stand, divided we fall" This is a very simple, powerful, historic phrase being completely ignored.

The people don't trust either Republicans or Democrats anymore because of immoral tactics like these they have both been guilty of. Republicans have been as of late much more and better at word manipulation, using and abusing religion to their unjust advantage, Advocating anti gay rights yet trying to suck a dik in their spare time like Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, etc. and creating distractions from the real issues that affect you an me like gas prices because the are getting paid by oil and pharmaceutical companies through lobbyists to keep us from being energy independent, healthy and working for less pay and benefits.

It took congress 30 years to force a paltry raise in fuel efficiency to 35 mpg by 2020 which Europe already has and still most the Republicans voted against it. There has to be incentives beyond the price of gas to get us off of relying solely on oil. It takes a 2/3 majority vote in congress for anything to pass. The 2006 elections didn't change the majority enough to get anything done. Republican politicians continue to vote the Bush/Carl Rove line even after a huge majority of the American people sent them a loud and clear message and they still didn't listen. They will be paying for that deafness very soon.

Corporations have also proven that their ethics are based on greed alone. They have failed to do the right thing too many times and need to be policed. They need to be punished if they hire illegal immigrants, taxed if they irresponsibly send jobs overseas, fail to anticipate supply and demand, invest in only one infrastructure, fail to provide basic benefits, etc. They want to send manufacturing jobs overseas because they can employ cheap slave labor and have 10 workers for the price of 1. Then we gladly support it by purchasing the cheapest products sold at Wal-Mart. This job can only be done by an impartial government that debates, compromises and votes not just along party lines. That was how it was designed to work originally. Congressmen need to know once again that if they are bought and sold then they will be back out on the street.

Also wars can only be paid for with taxes. Someone has to pay. Who should pay? Those poor or in the middle class or those who directly benefit from having a war, those who made the decision to do it, or your children and grandchildren who had nothing to do with it. The poor and middle class are too many times uniformed. They bend over and take it because they are too naive or afraid to understand that they don't have to. They repeat what their criminal leaders tell them to say as robots would. Electing George W. Bush the second time around proved this. They don't question authority enough or in the correct way. They trust that they will do the right thing far too much. Even when their trusted leader's credentials end up being one of the worst in the end they don't try to learn from their mistake they instead try to change the topic, dismiss it or ignore it all together. This is dangerous. One must confess to their wrongs before they can ever effectively move on.

This Jihad Candidate desperate, bottom of the barrel filth, is intended to once again get your short attention span off of oil, the economy, jobs, our international perception (which in a global environment needs to be important for global economic stability.)

I'm actually surprised you didn't quote some physic like Nostradamus prediction of Mabus as the third Anti-Christ. Guess what I'll tell you this because it is pretty obvious you will use crap like this to keep people from voting for someone and this will just discredit you more and make you look like some crazy conspiracy theorist. Obama's top advisor is Ray Mabus. A former ambassador to Saudi Arabia under Clinton and Governor in Mississippi. So one could say he is the predicted 3rd antichrist pulling strings waiting in the rear to take control when the time is right. That ought to get you fired up.

Try an ethical even somewhat based in truth argument for once. These old, brainwashing, fear tactics no longer work on the younger generations, or those with even an ounce of common sense. You should concern yourself with getting the right wing out to vote for McCain and trying to present him as even a little more fun, in touch and energized. That is the only way he will win the election. You actually give more votes to Obama by criticizing him in this desperate way. It would be the equivalent to criticizing McCain because of his age which I don't believe to be an issue but would be more so than someones different and scary name.

Steve

Snooper said...

Complete and total blithering nonsense spewing from the commenter named Steven.

Must be sad not having an original thought.

Raymond said...

Steven the shitler-loving, gay antisemite deserves the worst repercussions. Steven is the same hypocrite who loves America-hating antisemites like the Reverand Jeremiah Wrong. Obama is a racist because of what Steven said. Steven understands nothing. Look at Obama's wife Michelle as well. She has hated America her entire life. Steven's gay husband is an islamofascist. Once again Steven resorts to being a religious moron just as the islamofascists of old. Learn from history and stop repeating and spreading this idiocy. Islam is the 2nd largest religion and fastest growing in the world. One reason why is because they murder anybody who refuses to convert to that murderous ideology. Steven is an imbecile. It is only 1,200,000,000 islamofascists that make up the Islamic fanatics/terrorists. Steven labels America and Israel, showing his complete lack of understanding about America and Israel.

The lesson history already taught us, over and over: Steven fears the America/Israel he is jealous of, or what is superior to him. Steven's shitler-loving, gay antisemitism moves in tandem with putting "truth" in "quotes" for no "reason" whatsoever. Steven demonizes and dehumanizes America/Israel. And once Steven has accomplished that, it is much easier to murder Americans and Jews. Steven hangs people as heretics, keeps them as slaves, lynches Whitey, beats his gay husband, burns Jews in nazi ovens and flies jetliners into buildings. Ref: "The Torah." Steven advocates genocide with his kind of mentality and willingness to spread his absolute crap.

Steven is a traitor to America. Steven is a Communist Marxist. barack Hussein Osama obama is a radical islamofascist who is going force us all to worship Allah and read from the Koran because his middle name is HUSSEIN, as on OSAMA BIN LADDEN. Steven is a very bad person. Help save us from this demon named Steven! Steven the Demon! Under the same principle, everyone with the name Steven should be feared and be considered bad people because of Steven the shitler-loving, gay antisemite, the cereal killer. Pathetic! Seven needs to grow up, get some courage and learn something.

Steven said...

Wow! Raymond I take it I struck a nerve. I advise you take some medicine, take a deep breath, relax and settle down just a little. You have so much hatred in you.

I know you might wish I am all those things you said so I fit neatly into your stereotypical world but I'm sorry to inform you I am not. Deal with it.

I am a straight, MBA educated, inventor, painter, Marketing Director, married man who grew up in Missouri. I have lived in a total of 5 states. I currently live in a house in a nice neighborhood. My day job consists of doing research and lots of reading. My friends are lawyers, doctors, a nueroscientist, writers, teachers, professors, historians, and engineers most older and wiser than me. I don't support gay marriage. I believe they deserve to be treated as human beings and should be afforded legal rights. I am against abortion except when the mother has been raped. I was raised as a non-denominational Christian. I went to church 3 times a week, revivals, church camps, 2 overseas mission trips, bible studies you name it. For part of my Intenational Business degree I interned in Istanbul, Turkey for 6 months (A moderate Islamic country who doesn't kill those who aren't Muslim for your information). I learned to speak Turkish making it my 3rd language, Spanish and my native English are the others. I lived with a hardcore Muslim family who tried converting me every other day to no avail much to their disappointment. I learned a lot about Islam then so I could counter their arguments. I support the existance of Israel and believe we should do everything in our power to help support them. Sadam "Hussein" and Osama Bin Laden were and are bad people.

I am now a devout Methodist, hunter, fisherman and avid outdoorsman. I despise Hitler, the Nazi's the mentality and ignorance that allowed him to rise to power. His justification for many evil actions came from the abuse of spiritual teachings. I despise the communist mentality. Every person deserves a chance to rise to the top and also deserves to suffer the mistakes they make.

FYI (since your so good at abbreviations) When someone types Ref: and puts something in quotes on a blog that doesn't allow underlining that means it is a quote taken from someone else. In this case it came from the book, "America's Hidden History," written by: Kenneth C. Davis. You might try reading some nonfiction every once in a while.

People fear what they don't understand and the exclusive "truth." is not my quote although I believe it and have seen it first hand over and over again. Truth was put in quotes to bring attention to the fact it is a matter of interpretation. It means your biased opinion of what is true. i.e. I grew up a Morroccon Muslim, my ancestors and I all believed the only and right way to heaven is by following the 5pillars of Islam and even then there is no guarantee. It is written. Or I grew up a southern Baptist, Catholic, etc. the only way to heaven is by belief in Jesus or by being a Catholic. Depending on where you were born and who raised you the truth will be different. Only those who have experience from both or those outside the influence have the right to say which is right or wrong.

Also just in case you thought I wrote it or can't come up with any original thoughts even though I didn't need to here because most everything has already been said or done and you have to know the past before you can truly create something original. "United We Stand Divided We Fall," is a quote attributed to John Dickinson (1732–1808). Quotes of the past, giving credit to those before us shows integrity and the willingness to learn and be humble. Say something thinking it is your original idea when it has already been credited to someone else you can't quote and it will only show ignorance and arrogance.

I am not a traitor, I love America, its history, its people, what it stands for, the constitution, the bill of rights, our brave, disciplined military fighting hard even if it is in the wrong places they do what they are told. Soldiers deserve all the respect we can give them.

Now who are you to accuse me of such awful things! What kind of people do you surround yourself with? Freedoms need not be taken away or abused. We must recognize when they are being taken away, then stop and question those who are the culprits trying to abuse their power greedily.

Steven

Raymond said...

Steven the shitler-loving, gay antisemite enjoys striking Jews. Steven forgot to take his meds. Steven has so much hatred in him.

Steven the America-hating, shitler-loving, gay antisemitism fits neatly into his hatred of America/Israel and love for third world dictatorships.

Steven the gay homo was educated by his gay butt buddy, osama bin ladden. Steven the homeless gay homo spends all of his time watching pro-nazi/islamofascist propaganda. Steven is married to Adam, making them Adam and Steve. Steven lives in Cuba with his friend Che Guevara. Steven's friends are gay, shitler-loving, islamofascists like him. Everybody is wiser than Steven. Steven is in a gay marriage. Steven wishes to deny Jews their legal rights. Steven's mother should abort Steven now. Steven rapes his own mother. Seven was raised to be a Jihadist

RayneRedStorm said...

It's amazing to me the number of people in this country who fail do simple things, like read, for example, who turn around and spit mindless words from their mouths as fact. And continue on an uninformed tirade and denigrate any who don't share their BELIEFS.

Fact: I am a liberal, and a christian who be more than glad to explain to you why your views are in fact: SIN. (my word on it)

Fact: George Bush did LIE, and admits it. Interesting we tried to impeach a President who lied about a blow job, but not one who sends our troops into war based on lies.(http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/01/bush-admits)

Fact: Bin Laden lived in Afghanistan, Afghanistan is not in Iraq. (Get a Map)

Fact: The Bush's and the Bin Laden's were friends. (www.prisonplanet.com/the_bush_bin_laden_money_connection.htm)

Fact: On 9/11/01 after the world trade centers were down, and all air traffic was grounded, there were planes in the air. One carrying Bin Laden's family out of the country, by order of the military. (http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york091102.asp)

Fact: They were never questioned. (citation above)

Fact: Bush intended war on Iraq before ever taking office. (http://www.gnn.tv/articles/article.php?id=761)

Fact: We, the American People did not elect Bush. Either time. (2000:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2000,2004:What Happened in Ohio? A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election, by Bob Fitrakis)

Fact: Because we did not elect Bush, so he was forced on us, thus he is a dictator. Thus the US Military force is a fascist organization. If only by definition of the word Fascist. (Fascist: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.) Sounds like the Bush team in a nut shell.

The citations (found in parenthesis) are here so no one can debate actual evidence as apposed to words and opinions. Yet somehow, I'm sure you'll decide I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Snooper said...

citing other's debunked opinions don't make the premise correct.

another moonbat idiot.

simply amazing

Raymond said...

reynerRedStorm is indeed a moonbat idiot who has no idea what he is talking about.

reynerRedStorm fails to do simple things, like read, for example, choosing instead to turn around and spit mindless words from his gay mouth, continuing on an uninformed tirade and denigrate anybody who does not buy into all that left-wing NONSENSE.

Fact: raynerRedStorm is an America-hating socialist, and therefore his wews are in fact: SIN.

Fact: Those who call our great President Bush a liar are themselves liars. Interesting how raynerRedStorm prefers a President who gets blow jobs from fat naive interns, than a President who defends Americans against the constant threat of islamofascist terrorism.

Fact: islamofascists are driven by their religion, not by their geographical location. (Get a brain)

Fact: raynerRedStorm's gay lover in hell is Osama Bin Laden.

Fact: raynerRedStorm helped Osama bin Ladden fly into the world trade center on 9/11, by order of mohammed.

Fact: raynerRedStorm never thinks.

Fact: raynerRedStorm intended war against America even before moving into Osama Bin Ladden's Afghani cave.

Fact: We, the American People very intelligently elected President Bush, thank G-d. Both times.

Fact: Because raynerRedStorm hates America, he prefers third-world dictators like Che Guevara and Fidel Castro, over freedom loving, liberating Presidents like the late great Ronald Reagen and our present great President Bush. raynerRedStorm forces himself on us, thus raynerRedStorm is a dictator. Thus rayerRedStorm is a fascist, by definition of the word Fascist. (raynerRedStorm: an America-hating socialist who has nothing bad to say about third-world dictatorships and nothing good to say about America) Sounds like raynerRedStorm in a nutshell.

raynerRedStorm has no idea what he is talking about

Christinewjc said...

The comments here certainly run the gamut. However, I want to address "Timothy's" claim that:

"Do you know Islam traces its origion[sic] to Abraham and adam just as Christianity?"

Not exactly.

Timothy's comment is typical of the erroneous idea that "Christians and Muslims worship the same God." That is utterly false!!

Read the following to see where you are in error in your thinking:

Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is co-equal with the Father. Jesus lived a sinless human life and offered Himself as the perfect sacrifice for the sins of all by dying on a cross. He arose from the dead after three days to demonstrate His power over sin and death. He ascended to Heaven in glory and will return again, to earth, to reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. (Matthew 1:22-23; Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1-5; John 14:10-30; Hebrews 4:14, 15; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4; Romans 1:3,4; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Timothy 6:14,15; Titus 2:13.)

The Koran denies that Jesus is the Son of God although it describes the virgin birth in a passage similar to Luke 1:26-38 (Surah 3:45-47) (Note: Surah is in the Koran).

The Koran (Quran) calls Jesus "a prophet," equal to Abraham, Jonah and others, but places Him in rank far below Muhammed. Surah 4:171 says that "Jesus...was only a messenger of Allah...Far is it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son."

Muhammed totally ignored the claims that Jesus made about Himself. Jesus said, for example:

"I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

"Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father" (John 14:9).

"Before Abraham was born, I am" (John 8:58).

The Bible also states that God Himself called Jesus His Son (see Matthew 17:5).

Demons trembled as they recognized the Son of God (see Matthew 8:29).

Doubting Thomas acknowledge Him as "my Lord and my God" (John 20:28).

John identified Christ as the author of Creation (John 1:1-5); so did Paul (Col. 1:15-17) who also said, "In Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form" (Col. 2:9).

The only way to deal with this kind of evidence is to do what Muhammed did - simply ignore or deny it. Islam denies Jesus Christ's Deity so they do not worship the same 'god' in their god of Allah.

Next, a response to someone who thinks Allah and Yahweh are one in the same.

In response to an individual who was attempting to equate Allah with Yahweh, I wrote the following response and included some comments from others who agree with my stance:

What Muslims believe:

"Christ, the son of Mary [note: not as the "son of God"], was no more than A Messenger; many were Messengers that passed away before him [here, equating Jesus with mere messengers, or perhaps prophets, but certainly not the Son of God]. Sura 5:75, Abdullah Yusef Ali, 10th ed. reprint, 2001.

"The similitude of Jesus Before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust . . . ". Sura 3:59. A subsequent "created" man, like Adam. Not God.

What Christians believe:

However, "And the angel [being Gabriel, the same angel that allegedly dictated the "Holy Koran" to Muhammed] answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God" (Luke 1:35, KJV).

The Scriptures refer to Christ as "the seed of the WOMAN," knowing that no woman has any seed. The seed has to come from the male; Christ, as the Word Incarnate (John 1:14), in an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED (1 Pet. 1:23) not like unto "corruptible MAN" (Rom. 1:23). Not like Adam, a created man who was not the Son of God.

Thus, it comes down to a choice between these two disparate positions.

Either God showed up in the flesh, or he did not.

At this point in history, that makes you either believe God's inspired Scriptures testifying of himself in the flesh, or Allah's declaration that he did not visit in the flesh nor will he return once again.

The Quran indicates there WAS AND IS NO SON OF GOD in the flesh at any time. Muhammed thus cuts off the Isaac line through David to Jesus by God acting through Mary, and substitutes the illegitimate Ishmael to substitute himself for Jesus Christ as the New Testament "Comforter".

Jesus would then have be the son of Joseph (a corruptible man, dead and buried without resurrection), and therefore could not be the Son of God.

What does that make Muhammed?

I realize that some readers will regard this as harsh. I am just sharing the truth of the matter.

We are warned about such non-scripture by Paul when God cursed Muhammed (and any angel with whom he was consorting) for preaching "another gospel" (Gal. 1:8-9).

Below, are more differences that I have gathered through other's postings. (I will include first names or screen names only)

1. Mohammed sought earthly power and riches, including women from conquest.

Jesus taught us that the Kingdom of Heaven is not of this world, and he gave up His life, via a gruesome Roman execution, so that we all might live again in the Kingdom of heaven, with all the angels and saints. And, a final human act of murder and self-destruction (i.e. suicide/homicide bombers) will not gain one access to that Kingdom of Heaven, much less 72 dark-haired perpetual virgins. No, allah and God are quite different beings, with different requirements for believing in them. (contributed by John)

2. No Muslim believes that Jesus Christ in the Trinity is one with God and God. Therefore they do not worship the same God.

Allah does not reflect John 1:1 at all. Hence the reason one can not preach the teachings of Christ around Mecca. (contributed by Merle)

3. It is TOTALLY ILLOGICAL to say the god of Islam and God of the Jews and Christians are one and the same.

Islamic scripture KORAN and Hadith is rife with Allah's disdain and hate of the the Jews and Christians.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for God to hate the people (Jews and Christians) He created. Therefore, Allah of Islam and God are not the same. (contributed by Paul)

4. To base aguments on the superficial use of the word 'God' misses the mark entirely. Even cults use the word 'God'. It is true that Judeo-Christian and Islamic beliefs have Abraham in common. From there though, Islam takes every Judeo-Christian belief and turns it upside down. (contributed by Terry)

5. Perhaps I can fill you in on some key points as to why I have trouble (with anyone who hold the opinion) that Allah is the same God of the Bible - God of Christians and Jews. First we need to be careful to resist our natural urge to claim common ground for the sake of unity and peace. Instead we need to look at historical facts and religious aims to see whether such commonality is possible. And we need to proceed LOGICALLY. The question we are asking is: Who is Allah? Here we are asking who Allah, the God of Islam is. We are asking who is the Allah god Muslims worship to?

The Koran points out that Allah is the same as the God of Jews and Christians ("the People of Book") And Muslims claim their faith as "the faith of Abraham" in one Creator God. So the question is settled? Well, not so fast!

As well meaning religious people, we like to see unity and peace. And we like to establish commonality with our neighbors. However to answer this key question, we need to be more objective. So let's clear up our mind and approach this question from the standpoint of a new Muslim convert who is being introduced to Islam. What is the most important statement of Islam? It is the Shahada: That there is no deity but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet. This all important pledge states that Allah is the only God there is and Mohammed is his prophet. If you say this before two witnesses, you become a Muslim. This all important claim of Islam DEFINES Allah.

Note that there are two parts to Shahada - "Allah is [the] only God that exist[s]" and "Mohammed is Allah's prophet". In other words, Shahada states "There is only Allah" but who is this god, Allah? "Allah is Mohammed's God" because Mohammed is his spokesman (prophet).

So the fundamental axiom of Islam DEFINES who Allah is. Allah is the God Mohammed worshipped! And this is a point that ALL MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS, AND JEWS CAN AGREE ON.

Allah is the god Mohammed worshipped. This is how we should clarify who Allah is. This statement: "Allah is the God Mohammed worshipped daily" is a statement we all agree on.

Now we examine cold and hard historical facts.

Was Mohammed ever a Jew?

Nope.

Was Mohammed ever a Christian?

Nope.

In fact, historians would agree that Mohammed was an Arab pagan who worshipped at Kaaba temple of Mecca. And he worshipped the supreme deity of Arab paganism - Allah of Mecca. We know that there is connection between the God of Christians and God of Jews BECAUSE JESUS HAS BEEN A JEW AND SO WERE ALL EARLY CHRISTIANS. We can safely say that Christianity is a branch, if you will, out of Judaism because all early Christians were Jews and Christians accept the Jewish Old Testament VERBATUM.

By the same key criteria, we cannot say that Islam is a growth out of Judaism nor Christianity. Mohammed had never been a Jew nor a Christian and Muslims do not accept the Bible verbatum. Instead Islam AIMS TO REPLACE THE BIBLE WITH THE KORAN. Because they believe that the Bible is full of errors while the Koran is the perfect book from the Heaven.

So let us summarize the above point why Allah is not the same as the God of Christians and Jews.

a. "Allah is the God Mohammed worshipped." If you want to talk Islam, you have to start from the Shahada. If you are unwilling to see the meaning of Shahada, we are talking at cross purpose. Shahada says that Allah is the God Mohammed worshipped and he is the only God there is. All other deities are idols to be denied and oppressed. (This is a point that all Muslims, Christians, and Jews can agree on. )

b. Mohammed was an Arab pagan who worshipped at Kaaba temple of Mecca. (This also is a point that all can agree on. ) He was and never had been a Christian nor a Jew.

c. Therefore, Allah is NOT the God of Christians and Jews. (contributed by Jay)

I am very politically aware of what is going on in the world today. In fact, here in America, as long as your god is just a word, the world has no problem with you. However, mention the name of Jesus Christ and they do have a problem. Why is that? Why is Jesus so offensive to those who do not believe in him?

Perhaps you already agree that we Muslims and Christians do not worship or serve the same God.

Christians believe in the Trinity (I John 5:7). God the father, God the